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Learning From the Self-Destructive Disappearance of the Easter Island People - Our Enviroment

Seeded on Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:34 PM EST
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A very interesting article and conclusion.

A lesson for us and for today.

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Kavika

The article is well worthing reading and perhaps we can learn from history before we destroy our civilization.

  • 10 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:34 PM EST
AmericanSage

Note that the article on away.com that is referenced is a reprint of an article written by Jared diamond back on May 2, 2000.

Great article indeed, I just felt from the link title that it would reference Diamond and I love his views and writings.

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:44 PM EST
Kavika

Thanks for stopping by AmericanSage. Thanks for the information on Diamond as well.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:51 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Something to ponder. Good seed. Enoch.

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:51 AM EST
Kavika

Thanks niijii.

Really an interesting theory.

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:42 PM EST
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Pat from Montana

Interesting article Kavika.

You would think that modern new age man would have the common sense to figure that out by now. I don't think that society as a whole thinks of preserving the planet but more like getting all I can now because I am only here for 80 years.

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:43 PM EST
Al-316

Pat, good points. So often we take for granted what we do have and only focus on what we don't have.

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:33 PM EST
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Kavika

Hi Pat, thanks for stopping by. Unfortuetly we don't seem to learn from history. The destruction going on today is probably much worst then anytime in history.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 8 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:49 PM EST
StevieGee

The Easter Islanders' probably just succumbed to natural deforestation cycles. There's no proof that there was any human caused deforestation whatsoever. Don't take my word for it. There's documented scientific proof from a study funded by the Easter Island woodcutting industry.

  • 1 vote
#3.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:31 PM EST
Kavika

StevieGee, ''funded by the Easter Island woodcutting industry''...I hope that was sarcasm, if it wasn't that a study I'd really believe. (sarcasm)

  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:15 PM EST
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screminmimi

Over population will soon reach a point where countries will be protecting their borders and resources with armed troops. It is inevitable, and water will be the first resource for which we will kill our neighbors.

  • 8 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:53 PM EST
Kavika

I read a book a couple of years ago whose premise was that the next world war will be over water not oil.

Thanks for visiting mimi.

  • 5 votes
#4.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:36 PM EST
Kyle-2710718

Especially since our water sources are being tainted, so big corporations can make billions...

  • 4 votes
#4.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:28 PM EST
Kavika

That sure seems to be the case Kyle. In fact I just posted an article on ''fracking and water''.

Thanks for visiting

  • 4 votes
#4.3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:17 PM EST
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blue wolf

So will intelligence fail the test of evolution?

Is iintelligence actually intelligent?

  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:05 PM EST
screminmimi

The death of Faith will fail the test of evolution.

It doesn't matter if you are Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Wiccan, Pagan.... the campaign against everything rooted in pure faith will be our downfall. Without the belief that there is something or someone to whom you must answer for willful harm to another or to Nature, you place yourself in the position of being your own g_d, which is what has happened to so many of our government and corporate people.

They believe that as long as their short life here on Earth is the ultimate in power and comfort for them, those to come after them can learn to live in the hell they leave behind.

  • 4 votes
#5.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:16 PM EST
Kavika

''you place yourself in the position of being your own g_d, which is what has happened to so many of our government and corporate people''...Hit that one out of the park mimi.

  • 4 votes
#5.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:39 PM EST
Kavika

Thanks for visiting blue wolf, I'm of the mind that we are failing in many different areas.

  • 3 votes
#5.3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:39 PM EST
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Nina Fox

Interesting article, Kavika

While it is true the people of Easter Island did not take care of their environment by cutting down their beautiful forest, I also read somewhere that it was also due to an animal that would eat all the seeds the trees dropped. It has been a while since I read that, and will need to check it out on the internet which I cannot do right at this moment in time. I am just expressing this for “food for thought”

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:30 PM EST
Kavika

thanks for stopping by Nina, it was rats that ate the seeds.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 4 votes
#6.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:41 PM EST
Nina Fox

That is correct Kavika. Thanks for all your knowledge

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST
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Grisham

Very interesting article, Kav. We're very bad at enviromentalism. We're more a blight on the Earth than something that benefits it. I think if we don't change our ways, good old Mother Nature will shake the fleas off her coat.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:28 PM EST
Kavika

thanks for stopping by Grisham. Yup, one of these days Mother Earth is going to get sick of us and that will be the end.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:18 PM EST
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etva

Thanks for the seed, Kav! We can learn much from the mistakes of the past, if only we can focus on something more than ourselves.

I suspect, though, that the disaster happened not with a bang but with a whimper. Any islander who tried to warn about the dangers of progressive deforestation would have been overridden by vested interests of carvers, bureaucrats, and chiefs, whose jobs depended on continued deforestation.

Our Pacific Northwest loggers are only the latest in a long line of loggers to cry, "Jobs over trees!" The changes in forest cover from year to year would have been hard to detect. Only older people, recollecting their childhoods decades earlier, could have recognized a difference.

Corrective action is blocked by vested interests, by well-intentioned political and business leaders, and by their electorates, all of whom are perfectly correct in not noticing big changes from year to year. Instead, each year there are just somewhat more people, and somewhat fewer resources, on Earth.

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:09 AM EST
Kavika

Thanks for stopping by etva...''if only we can focus on something more than ourselves''..That my friend is the crux of the matter...

  • 4 votes
#8.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:18 AM EST
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Al-316

I was unable to see where there was any real evidence to support the theories behind the disappearance of the Easter Island folks. Whereas the inhabitants could have done themselves in, it seems just as plausible to me that a giant tsunami or disease could have been the cause of their extinction.

Of couse, I can't prove my theory either.

Good article Kavika, Migwetch gete niijii.

  • 3 votes
Reply#9 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:28 PM EST
Kavika

Boozhoo niijii,

My theory is that it was space aliens...LOL...

It is very interesting to study. Many valid theories have been presented.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:08 PM EST
Lebowsky

Good thinking article Kavika and I have seen different reasons why the Easter Islanders have disappeared and I tend to side with too much exploitation of the resources, but what ever the cause, there is no denying they are gone.

Throughout history, people come and people go and right now we're leaning towards the gone side with an accelerated appetite for resources and the talk of growth growth growth. Somewhere I hope coast coast coast comes into play. Most do not want to hear that.

  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:58 AM EST
G. H.

It is certainly sad, the way the earth's treasures have been exploited into almost nothing. I have always believed in the adage of many Native tribes: "Use what fills our needs, but guard the rest for seven generations". Very simply means don't be greedy. Too bad people don't seem to see that. There is already not enough left for our crandchildren, let alone for those many decades into the future. Disgusting!

Nookomis ♥ (a sad grandmother)

  • 4 votes
Reply#12 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:02 PM EST
Kyle-2710718

It is also sad that so much rich farmland sits unused, so greedy corporations can drive up the prices, while many people around the world are starving.

  • 5 votes
#12.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:11 PM EST
Kavika

Thanks for visiting Al, Nookomis and Kyle. I've bleen having computer problems for over a week.

All true words spoken. Destruction of our planet is moving forward in the name of growth. How much ''growth'' do we need.

  • 2 votes
#12.2 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:27 PM EST
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