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John Burnett's first hand account of the Trail of Tears - An eye witness to genocide

Seeded on Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:46 PM EST
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Private John Burnett letter to his children on his 80th birthday, detailing the horror of the ''Trail of Tears'' in which 4,000 Cherokee men, women and children died.

This is only one tribe, others such as the Chickasaw, Choctaw also had to endure this forced removal from their homes and land. They to suffered like the Cherokee.

John Burnett could never forget what he saw and his fight to help those in need.

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Kavika

A highly disturbing first hand account of an eye witness to the genocide of the ''Trail of Tears''....

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:48 PM EST
Pat from Montana

However, murder is murder whether committed by the villain skulking in the dark or by uniformed men stepping to the strains of martial music.

Murder is murder, and somebody must answer. Somebody must explain the streams of blood that flowed in the Indian country in the summer of 1838. Somebody must explain the 4000 silent graves that mark the trail of the Cherokees to their exile. I wish I could forget it all, but the picture of 645 wagons lumbering over the frozen ground with their cargo of suffering humanity still lingers in my memory.

Let the historian of a future day tell the sad story with its sighs, its tears and dying groans. Let the great Judge of all the earth weigh our actions and reward us according to our work.

I think the above words speak volumes about the man. Thank you for posting this Kavika,

  • 6 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:51 PM EST
Kavika

Thank you for visiting Pat. Yes, those words did speak volumes. I have to admire John Burnett not only for writing the letter to let his children what really happened on this day, but for trying to help the Cherokee and for never forgetting.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 6 votes
#2.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:55 PM EST
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Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Kavika: The parallels to Babi Yar and the holocaust are striking.

It is good that this is made available by you. Some things we must never forget, lest they re-occur.

Enoch.

  • 6 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:02 AM EST
Kavika

Enoch niijii, thank you for visiting. This is only one tribe, as I stated in the post the Choctaw and Chickasaw suffered the same fate as did other tribes. Thousands more died.

The Ojibwe have their own Trail of Tears. ''The Sandy Lake Tragedy''...It changed our history, we never allowed the government to remove us from our homeland after Sandy Lake. 1,000 Ojibwe men, women and children died at the hands of the government. We will never forget.

We have a bond niijii, one that either of us will forget.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 6 votes
#3.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:10 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Kavika: We do have a bond Many in fact. Friends for years, friends in tears.

Enoch.

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:27 AM EST
Kavika

We are a team, you set them up, I knock them down...do I need to mention a name...LOL

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:06 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Winks. E.

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:18 AM EST
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Dowser

I have read this before, in its entirety, and just can't read it again tonight. It makes me sad beyond words, and forever grateful that somehow, my great-great grandmother escaped this. Did her family hide in the mountains? Did her father know what was coming and escape somehow? How did she come to be in Hawesville, KY? She died about 1880-1885, and was about 40-45 years old, so she would have been a child...

We visited the Trail of Tears commemorative park in Hopkinsville, KY this past summer. Chief Whitepath and Chief Fly Smith have grave stones there. There is a placque there, given to the state of Kentucky by the grateful Nation of the Cherokee. The park is the ONLY park/monument/memorial to those that died on the Trail of Tears in the US. That, in and of itself, is a crime.

Dear Kavika-- a good friend, (Defense Council), told me the words to write, and I've put them up on my bio-- Much love to you, good friend, in Cherokee. (I'm trusting that he did NOT teach me how to say "sit on it and swivel", like my Hungarian friend...)

In English, because I don't speak Cherokee, I would like to say, "Much love to you, Good Friend"

Thank you for this. I just can't read it again right now... Just like I am avoiding all sad movies, sad music, and things that make me cry or have nightmares... Just for a while. I have a copy of this somewhere, though.

  • 4 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:20 AM EST
Dowser

PS, if you ever get here, Google the place-- the map on the site is awful! We drove around in circles, trying to find it. It has a tiny little sign, too. But it is a pretty place. I felt very oppressed there. As if a weight was on me. I didn't walk around much, but sat and looked. The trees are bent, because it is an area that floods easily-- they look tortured. There aren't any trees left that were there when the Cherokee died there. Somehow, trees are silent witnesses of man's wickedness. It would have been nice to have a 'link' from that time with something living.

  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:29 AM EST
Kavika

Dowser my friend, I completely understand that now isn't the time to read this again.

I have seen your avatar in Cherokee and it doesn't say ''sit on it and swivel''...I think that he said, ''Hey Firewater Pony Woman, pass the firewater''. LOL...

It is sad that there is only the one park/monument/memorial to the Trail of Tears

When I get back there, and I will, I'll be sure to visit the memorial.

  • 5 votes
#4.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:32 AM EST
Dowser

Ooooooh, firewater? I like firewater! :-)

I think there should be memorials all over the place, personally. Remind people what we are capable of doing. And what we must guard against.

((((((((((Kavika))))))))))))

  • 3 votes
#4.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:39 AM EST
Kavika

Oh no, were in big trouble now....lol

  • 3 votes
#4.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:54 AM EST
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G. H.

Niijii, that was a heart-rending story by an old man still suffering for what my people suffered. How very sad and needless! He was a good man. I believe my relatives may have been some of the ones who escaped because their band is called "Eastern Overhill Band", but sadly, I don't know for sure. That may be why we have no relatives eventually added to the Dawes Roll.

I put up an article "Missing Everyone, health issues" on Sunday.

Nookomis ♥

  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:36 AM EST
Dowser

G.H., I haven't been able to keep up with my tracker all that much... Are you ill, dear friend? Is there anything we can do to help?

(((((((((((((G. H.))))))))))))))

  • 4 votes
#5.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:40 AM EST
Kavika

Thanks for visiting Nookomis. He was a good man, and it tortured him until the day he died. Sadly in a way he was another victim.

Go my way to your article.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 4 votes
#5.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:56 AM EST
G. H.

Dowser @ #5.1 Hello sweetie! No, I just didn't guard my health well over the holidays. I didn't keep up with my bloodwork and wore myself out. I may have been developing a form of anemia. More bloodwork today, will find out in two days. Thanks for asking! :-)

((((((♥Dowser♥)))))

  • 3 votes
#5.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:55 AM EST
Dowser

Hope you feel better soon, dear G.H.!

  • 1 vote
#5.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:29 AM EST
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Al-316

The story of the "Trail of Tears" never gets easier to hear. The atrocities committed by our government can never be erased or forgotten. The killing, pain, suffering, and injustices inflicted on our Native American brothers and sisters can never be erased or forgotten.

The legacy of greed is a shameful one.

Waanakiwin gete niijii.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:48 AM EST
Kavika

Thanks for stopping by niijii. ''the legacy of greed is a shameful one''. That is so true Al, and we are seeing again today in different forms.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 4 votes
#6.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:58 AM EST
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elpkidd
And I have known as many as twenty-two of them to die in one night of pneumonia due to ill treatment, cold, and exposure. Among this number was the beautiful Christian wife of Chief John Ross.

Almost 25% of the Cherokee that were taken died. Look around at four of your friends and family and think what it would be like to lose one of them because of greed. Of those 25% most were less than five years old or over 50.

My gggrandfather left Alabama just days before the roundup started and took his family to safety in Arkansas. His father died in Texas.

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:55 AM EST
Kavika

Thanks for stopping by elpkidd. Your gggrandfather was lucky and got safely away.

The numbers that died are hard to accept. Add to that the thousands of other people from other tribes and it becomes almost unbelievable.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:00 AM EST
Defense Counsel

Elp, I can relate to that. My maw maw escaped and became part of the Eastern Band of the Tsalagi. She was very lucky as Kavika stated. As I have told many brothers and sisters on here, she raised me until I was ten, she was in her early 90's when she went to the Great Spirit. Kavika, make no mistake, all our indigenous brothers and sisters felt the wicked sting of genocide. "Our Blood Runs Together". Thanks for sharing and accepting the FR elp. I'm honored Unalii.

  • 3 votes
#7.2 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:52 PM EST
scar_tissue

My maw maw escaped and became part of the Eastern Band of the Tsalagi.

Is there a story to tell about that?

Osiyo, DC! LTNS, where ya been?

(Cherokee is easier to spell than Ojibwe ;-))

  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:50 PM EST
Defense Counsel

Scar, I'm good and awesome to see you!! Just writing and working alot. Yes, there is a story, I've been doing it little pieces at a time. :) One day, I will put it all in one little folder!! LOL :) Great to see you Scar!! :)

  • 2 votes
#7.4 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:56 PM EST
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AmericanMOM-598098

Thank you Kavika. I have been reading through history books and accounts written around the time of the removal. This was "right on time".

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:45 AM EST
elpkidd

When I was in school, the entire Trail of Tears was covered in one paragraph.

  • 5 votes
#8.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:52 AM EST
Kavika

Thanks for visiting AmericanMOM. It's one very sad time in our history.

Waanakiwin (peace)

  • 4 votes
#8.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:18 AM EST
Kavika

elpkidd, it wasn't even mentioned when I went to school. Sadly most of our history was never mentioned.

  • 4 votes
#8.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:19 AM EST
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tzia62

The first word that came to mind was Devastating," I couldn't get past that word.

  • 4 votes
Reply#9 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:49 AM EST
Kavika

Thanks for stopping by tzia...It is devastating, and to think that this was only one tribe of many that were forced from their homes and had to endure this terror.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 3 votes
#9.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:55 AM EST
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AmericanMOM-598098

One of the reasons for my research was to see how many times and what context the removal was mentioned in writings intended to educate our youth. I went to school in Oklahoma, Kansas, and Virginia; the Native American Indians were mentioned, but only in a minor context. I was fortunate to have learned from tribal elders and parents who recognized the need for me to know and always search for the truth. One truth I have found is; there were many European settlers who accepted and found value in the Native American's way of life. In fact, many preferred it. There were many areas where the American Indian and the European settlers lived, worked, and built communities together while learning from each other. If it weren't for greedy profiteers; we may truly have had a country like no other. The entire history of the beginnings of this country has been construed and designed to make the atrocities committed appear justified and honorable. Spain, France, and England put claim on this country without consulting the original inhabitants; which began a long path of oppression fueled by greed.

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:39 PM EST
Dowser

Back in the 1960s, the Trail of Tears was never mentioned here in KY. My son's KY history mentioned that they came through KY on their way to OK, but it was covered in about a paragraph. I suppose that is progress, but I'm not sure how much progress...

  • 3 votes
#10.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:44 PM EST
Kavika

AmericanMOM, ''we may truly have had a country like no other''...yes that is so true, yet the greed led to the mass killings like the ''Trail of Tears''....

Dowser, that is really sad, but I guess covering up genocide is the thing to do. We don't want to teach the real history of this country.

  • 4 votes
#10.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:13 AM EST
Dowser

I think it is a crying shame, personally.

We have few Native Americans in the state, which is sad and odd-- but no one actually lived here, in the recent past-- There were settlements in extreme western Kentucky about 800 years ago, but no one stayed here long back in D. Boone's day. They are busy reintroducing much of our wildlife back to the state, which is good. We now have elk, buffalo, wolves, bear, and the wildcats are coming back, too. It will never again be like it was, and there are few places you can go and feel as if you're the only one left alive in the whole world-- but those few places are very special, and VERY difficult to reach.

A lot of people, like me, can lay claim to a Cherokee relative or two, but there are very few people who are full-blooded, or know much about the Native people's customs and beliefs. Yet, the Pow Wow at the Trial of Tears park is well-attended, and people visit from all over the country there. I hope we can go to the Pow Wow this year-- it is in September, so it may be hard to get there. But, Hopkinsville isn't that far, especially from our camper! :-)

We also want to go to the Highland Games in Glasgow-- I want to see the guys throw those telephone poles! ;-)

  • 4 votes
#10.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:11 AM EST
Kavika

Throw telephone poles!! Geez Dowser we did that all the time as kids....LOL

  • 2 votes
#10.4 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:43 AM EST
Dowser

LOL!

I know its called something else, but I can never remember what, exactly... :-)

  • 1 vote
#10.5 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:34 PM EST
scar_tissue

It's the caber toss, Dowser. I saw it when I went to a Scottish Festival (to look up kilts :P).

  • 2 votes
#10.6 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:44 PM EST
Dowser

I can never remember the name of it-- it just looks to me like they are throwing telephone poles... :-)

    #10.7 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:34 PM EST
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    elpkidd

    The Indians problems with the Europeans started from day one. Here is an excerpt from the writing of Christopher Columbus:

    The Enslavement of Native People

    On October 12, 1492 (the first day he encountered the native people of the Americas), Columbus wrote in his journal: "They should be good servants .... I, our Lord being pleased, will take hence, at the time of my departure, six natives for your Highnesses." These captives were later paraded through the streets of Barcelona and Seville when Columbus returned to Spain. [4]

    From his very first contact with native people, Columbus had their domination in mind. For example, on October 14, 1492, Columbus wrote in his journal, "with fifty men they can all be subjugated and made to do what is required of them."[5] These were not mere words: after his second voyage, Columbus sent back a consignment of natives to be sold as slaves. [6]

    Yet in an April, 1493, letter to Luis de Santangel (a patron who helped fund the first voyage), Columbus made clear that the people he encountered had done nothing to deserve ill treatment. According to Columbus:

    "they are artless and generous with what they have, to such a degree as no one would believe but him who had seen it. Of anything they have, if it be asked for, they never say no, but do rather invite the person to accept it, and show as much lovingness as though they would give their hearts." [7]

    Nonetheless, later in the letter Columbus went on to say:

    "their Highnesses may see that I shall give them as much gold as they need .... and slaves as many as they shall order to be shipped." [8]

    http://www.understandingprejudice.org/nativeiq/columbus.htm

    • 4 votes
    Reply#11 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:08 PM EST
    Kavika

    Good links elpkidd. The papal bulls from the Vatican during this time in history also indicate the church as a main supporter of the genocide of NA's.

    • 3 votes
    #11.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:45 PM EST
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    bestquest

    You may wish to visit c-span web site for a talk about Texas Comanches by author Gwynne. The story used to be taught in public schools there but has sadly been removed from texts there.

    They were only conquered by settlers killing ALL the buffalo, so they were starving when they surrendered to the reservation which is in southwest Oklahoma. US army was stymied by their tactics, fortitude and equestrian skills.

    Andy Jackson did not drink water at all. Only coffee and liquor.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#12 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:28 PM EST
    Dowser

    At the time, a lot of people drank water that had been boiled as coffee, tea, or in spirits, as in beer or liquor. The water wasn't safe to drink.

    • 2 votes
    #12.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:19 PM EST
    Kavika

    Sorry bestquest by reply is #14, I forgot to hit reply

    • 1 vote
    #12.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:54 PM EST
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    screminmimi

    I have often wondered what kind of men the soldiers had to be to follow the orders that had them treating the Native Americans the way they did.

    Yes, they had to make them take that journey, as ordered by the government. No, they did not have to make them suffer in the way they did, and no, they did not have to be as brutal as they were in their treatment of them.

    For that matter, what kind of men were those who attacked undefended villages where only women and children were there for the slaughter? What can be said of such people?

    The Trail of Tears is barely mentioned in a few sentences, or not mentioned at all, in the history books in this country. That is as shameful as the journey itself.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#13 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:56 PM EST
    Kavika

    Good question screminmimi. At least one, John Burnett did what he could to help, and administered a good beating to a teamster..

    It you think of this ''march'' and then add to it the other tribes that suffed from the same removal, it really is painful.

    Waanakiwin niijii

    • 4 votes
    #13.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:49 PM EST
    elpkidd

    “One’s identity standard guides a person’s behavior,” she said. “Then the person sees the reactions of others to his or her behavior. If others have a low moral identity and do not challenge the illicit behavior that follows from it, then the person will continue to do what he or she is doing. This is how immoral practices can emerge.”

    Jan Stets, Ph.D., of University of California, Riverside and Michael Carter, Ph.D.

    http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/02/17/why-do-some-people-behave-morally-while-others-dont/34961.html

    She is talking about the banking and mortgage industries of today, but I think what she says applies.

    • 2 votes
    #13.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:26 PM EST
    Kavika

    It sure sounds like it applies here.

    • 3 votes
    #13.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:36 PM EST
    scar_tissue

    No, they did not have to make them suffer in the way they did, and no, they did not have to be as brutal as they were in their treatment of them.

    They were indifferent to it. They didn't think of them as *human*.

    • 2 votes
    #13.4 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:46 PM EST
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    Kavika

    Thanks for visiting bestquest. The Commanche did hold off the US troops with their fighting skills. The killing of all the buffalo did the same to many other tribes of the plains as well.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#14 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:52 PM EST
    Dowser

    AWFUL.

    • 1 vote
    #14.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:08 AM EST
    Reply
    daMamma

    Nearly all the dealings of white Europeans with the Native folk were underhanded and laced with greed. This is only one of several "Trails of Tears". Tragic and horrific don't even begin to cover these things.

    Breaks my heart.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#15 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:42 AM EST
    Kavika

    Thanks for stopping by daMamma. It is sadly only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the genocide that occured to NA's.

    Waanakiwin (peace)

    • 4 votes
    #15.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:06 AM EST
    Reply
    Grisham

    Thanks for this seed, Kav. It's something we need to remember and understand so it never happens again.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#16 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:47 AM EST
    Kavika

    Thanks for stopping by Grisham. It is painful, but as you said, ''never forget''...

    Waanakiwin niijii

    • 2 votes
    #16.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:08 AM EST
    Reply
    TruettCollins

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW8rIM2lNN8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RIJ_hFPDFE

    • 1 vote
    Reply#17 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:48 PM EST
    TruettCollins

    I remember listening to this as a kid growing up......

    • 1 vote
    #17.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:58 PM EST
    Kavika

    Thanks for stopping by Truett....excellent link, thanks for that.

    • 1 vote
    #17.2 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:37 PM EST
    Pat from Montana

    Truett ~ thank you for not only those links but the side links on those 2 links are also incredible. Will take me a while to go through them : )

    I never knew Johnny Cash did those.

    • 1 vote
    #17.3 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:44 PM EST
    Defense Counsel

    Osiyo. Kavika, I had missed this post. Although I had read this account before, I say wado for posting this. Our people suffered horribly on this "death trip". It is disgusting to ponder, but you know facing the truth is sometimes hardest thing to do, but necessary for survival. My heart is heavy for the plight of my Tsalagi people. It is indeed heavy for all of our peoples that have suffered from the systematic genocide brought with the "Euro Invasion". One, has to have a dark soul, to honestly research the arrival on our shores(through today)and still have hatred and bitterness for the suffering NA. I speak with honor toward all Tribes and Nations Unalii. A day doesn't go by, where I don't ask the Great Spirit for strength and understanding toward the "evil" that is always on our doorstep. All the fallen peoples of the first nations must be revered and honored. Our very own Red Road is the path we take together. It will lead us to our meeting place underneath the sacred tree. All Tribes,Nations and clans will gather and rise up in honor of Equa Adanvdo and Unitsi Elohi. There is a day that will be OUR day, when we will be joined by our departed loved ones. There will be much joy as people like my Ulisi will hear me speak to her in Tsalagi. She will know that I kept my word to her. "Never Forget"

    Nvwatohiyadv Unalii....(Peace My Friend)

    • 2 votes
    #17.4 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:36 AM EST
    Kavika

    Thanks for stopping by DC...We must ''never forget''..

    Waanakiwin niijii

    • 1 vote
    #17.5 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:44 AM EST
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